Your Late-In-The-Day BSG Post
The scene everyone's talking about.
Love or hate the show, if there were an award for "Best Atmospheric Viper Drop EVER," this one would be in the top three.
17 Responses to “Your Late-In-The-Day BSG Post”
The scene everyone's talking about.
Love or hate the show, if there were an award for "Best Atmospheric Viper Drop EVER," this one would be in the top three.
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October 30th, 2006 at 4:09 pm
This episode was so good that the last episode, the one where they are trying people for war crimes, was anti-climactic for me. I think they set the bar pretty high with Exodus and now theyre gonna hafta pay for a few episodes until everyone gets over the high.
Dave (someone stole my cool internet name)
October 30th, 2006 at 7:26 pm
This is the only BSG clip I’ve ever seen. Tell me it loses something being only 1 minute long and being on youtube. I can see how the concept of what they’re doing is cool, but tiny screen and short duration makes the whole thing seem like a B production. Plus it seems from just this little piect that it was a lot of work for 2 little robots.
I should just buy this thing on DVD so that I get the whole concept I guess.
October 30th, 2006 at 8:30 pm
If you haven’t seen the ep, I’m sure it loses something in the translation to tiny screen. I think you definitely have to see the episode (and part 1) to really appreciate the context.
The attack was more than just on the 2 Cylons in the tower. If I understood correctly, Galactica’s attack had 2 primary jobs: Get rid of the Cylon suppression fire (there were Cylons in the air too), and destroy the city gates so the people could get to the ships.
Rent the original miniseries on DVD. You’ll be hooked.
October 31st, 2006 at 6:44 am
OMFG!
I don’t think we get it in the UK for sometime. I’ve managed to wait until series 2 was released on DVD before watching it but after seeing that, bittorrent here I come!
October 31st, 2006 at 8:43 am
It was pure poetry in motion when that happened. I think that they’d managed to instill an ache into your bones by that point. So that you were so desperate for the humans that you empathised with what they saw. It was sort of like a phoenix in the sky.
October 31st, 2006 at 10:10 am
This has gone into my list of All Time Best Moments in science-fiction cinema (or television) *EVER*.
October 31st, 2006 at 10:30 am
I loved it.
The last episode (”Collaborators”) was the weakest so far in the third season. It’s whole purpose was to get people put where they needed to be for the rest of the season, and to tie up all the ground-based plots.
People I wonder about:
Cylon Sharon. Where is she? Haven’t seen her since the shootout at the O.K. Corral.
The Lucy Loveless mole in the civilian fleet. Nobody knew about her before the Cylons invaded. That would have been the first time anyone knew that the independent reporter was really a Cylon.
Baltar. Now that he is on a Cylon basestar, will we finally see some of the other models? Also, it looks like Cylons DO go around dressed on basestars. So why were all those Sharon copies nude?
Tigh: will he return to being the drunken source of every bad idea?
Lee: will he be thin next episode?
Kara: Did she really break up? Or does she just need time alone?
Caprica Six: Okay, maybe “YOU NEED ME! YOU NEED ME! YOU NEEEED ME! And I need you. Maybe I should have started with that…” really DOES work on you…
Cylons in general: You’re virtually immortal, smarter than humans, and way outnumber them. How do you keep LOSING?
October 31st, 2006 at 10:51 am
*Spoilers*
I agree, Collaborators was definitely the weakest of the three, and as Dave said, anti-climactic. Part of the problem was that the first 2 episodes painted all of their storylines in a corner, so they were pretty much required to do an episode like this. But I wasn’t sold on the secret trials, and I thought that the whole “general amnesty” thing was nothing more than deus ex machina. I felt cheated. Blowing people out a launch tube in a secret trial should have repercussions.
I’m thinking it’s assumed that once the Cylons showed up, she pretty much walked away from her human cover. It’s a shame though, I would have liked to seen more of her as an undercover Cylon.
Oh I hope so. I love to hate Tigh. Although now it’s going to be hard to just outright hate him. He’s going to have a lot of demons to deal with for at least the rest of the season, as shown when Adama threw him off the bridge.
One of the video features on the SciFi site had a shot of him saying something like “I finally get to be thin Lee Adama today.” Or something like that. So if not next episode, then at least some time this season.
What I wonder about Lee is what his position on Galactica is now. After being a Commander (and therefore out-ranking Tigh, right?) is he now going to go back to being whatever he was before? And after the new CAG pretty much showed how much of a badass she is, does Lee all of a sudden get to take her job away from her?
Gaius Baltar: Every clueless boyfriend you’ve ever had, and yet you still keep seeing him.
Hmmm…yet another Iraq parallel? =P
October 31st, 2006 at 3:37 pm
Cylons keep losing because it’s part of God’s plan, duh.
It’s nice to see all those copies of Simon the Cylon take a break from farming baby makers and join his friends.
I find Baltar’s new swanky digs fitting; albeit I’m disappointed to see him separated from the Galactica. I guess it’s the only plausible option as the Colonial Fleet would stick his head on a pike. We can’t lose the best character ever.
Collaborators wasn’t the season’s weakest episode, none are, they are all good, some are great, and any episode after an epic in the overall plot is hard to top. Okay, I’m debating semantics, but still! haha. Roslin’s pardon was a cheap and easy pass, Zarek as vice president should prove to be interesting if not already controversial, but he’s no Baltar.
Galactica’s jump into low atmosphere to launch the viper offense was amazing, but there should have been more cylons getting torn up on the ground after that. My first thought was where the fuck are the cylons. which almost ruined it for me. I knew they were spread thin on the ground, but there should have been more. More cylon towers, dammit.
October 31st, 2006 at 6:41 pm
So, does the common viewer understand the significance of the 12 “colonies” and kolob? Since I don’t really know the story of BSG are there by chance only 2 “colonies” that we know of their whereabouts?
Space is by far the most bazaar of the 10 tribes theories.
October 31st, 2006 at 7:52 pm
All twelve colonies are accounted for. Earth was the mythical thirteenth colony. This was something emphasized a lot more in the original series.
November 1st, 2006 at 9:23 am
I’ll take that as a “no”.
Now I have to wonder if BSG would be as popular if the general audience knew of it’s origination. Now I really need to see these to see what other little goodies are hidden in the story.
Krones (You may be the only one here who has the background to know), is there more to the comparison that you know of?
November 1st, 2006 at 9:32 am
If you’re getting at the links between BSG and Mormonism, yes there are definitely connections. Glen Larson, original creator of BSG, is (or was) a Mormon and has said there are thematic similarities, such as Adama = Adam, a “lost tribe,” the ruling “quorum of 12″ structure, fleeing from tyranny/persecution, and probably more.
If you’re hinting at something else, I’m stumped.
November 1st, 2006 at 10:17 am
It’s often thought of as mormonism only because we understand a bit about the old testament. When really if it was mormonism it would be about native americans (multiple wives and having horns). It’s less mormonism and more Hebrew history. Not “the quorum of the 12″ so much as “the 12 tribes of israel”. The 12 tribes were scattered (2 different wars), 10 were lost, 2 returned to the “promised land” (still having wonderful little wars over there). It’s all pretty babylonian and syrian historic information (that hopefully everyone learns in world history class in high school where we learn about the cool tortures that those 2 civilizations used).
I wonder which part of the history BSG is set in though, is it after the Syrians conquered most of the known world, and before Babylon (that would have been 10 colonies destroyed maybe), or after babylon conquered the middle east? Has to be before the romans though, because that would put the tribe of Judah (you know them as the Jews) back in Jerusalem. Are the Cylons Syrians I imagine? Am I totally off and it is really all the way back to the Egyptians (if you know where all 12 colonies are that’s probably a good guess)?
So when someone mentions comparisons to Iraq it’s kind of a no brainer since that is still the same people the show seems to be based on.
One of the dumber theories about the location of the “lost tribes” is that they are in space. Another has them trapped in ice in the north pole. Pretty bazaar speculation stuff.
November 1st, 2006 at 10:52 am
I’m pretty sure the reference to the 12 colonies comes from the zodiac, especially given that each colony is named after each sign. Except for the LDS references, I think Larson just threw a mish-mash of ancient civilizations together, mostly for visual stylization. In the old series, Egyptian and Greek are the most prominent. In the new series you see only Greek. (most prominently, the Tomb of Athena that shows the roadmap to earth, and the Arrow of Apollo that opened it.) The mechanical Cylons are refered to as Centurians, which could be interpreted as Roman I suppose, but I don’t think this is the intention.
Do you mean literally or figuratively? Literally, the Cylons were created by the humans. Figuratively, I suppose that makes them most like the Hebrew Golem.
I could be wrong, but I don’t think either Larson or Moore have ever put together a comprehensive earth timeline/history for the series. And this can only be a good thing. As I see it, our earth and BSG live in wildly disparate universes, and combining them would be as disasterous as trying to combine Star Trek and Star Wars. There is simply too much to resolve, and it would fly in the face of how Ron Moore has envisioned the series. And that’s actually a huge problem for BSG. If you’re a writer, you know that you eventually need to address the main goal of the story. The main goal of BSG is to find earth, but finding *our* earth is simply not a plausible outcome. Really, the best series finale I can envision at this point is that we leave the Galactica as it enters a solar system notable for its single blue planet.
November 1st, 2006 at 5:13 pm
The 12 or (12 found +1 lost) colonies concept in BSG is borrowed from the 12 tribes, the whole roadmap for a lot of the story was already there, the writers and Larson were very clever.
Bug you mention a lost tribe in space, so you may already have delved into this. Some oldschool Mormons and non believe in another tribe which is on another planet. It is written in The lost book of Enoch angels took Enoch to speak with God, he adorned a special suit of light because flesh is corrupt and he would have otherwise been destroyed. It is also written this is where Enoch learned about the solar system, he returned to Earth and his family a few days later, they had no idea where he was and had been looking for him. Enoch wrote about his experience as commanded by God. The time came for Enoch and his people to leave Earth and start a civilization elsewhere. My memory is blurry, so check out The Book of Enoch if you are really interested.
Of course, Enoch predates the 12 Tribes, it is written in other literature that Enoch’s people will join the Ephraimites during Armageddon and will have superior technological advantages over the Ephraimites. Joseph Smith wrote about the lost books of the Bible, in fact, Smith ripped off quite a bit from the Book of Enoch for the Pearl of Great Price, but personally I think a lot of hardcore Mormons who actually know some shit do believe in the Book of Enoch because they think Joseph Smith did too. For the record I am not active in the church. ;p
BSG is set in its own history; if I were to suggest a metaphor that ties in with the history of the 12 tribes in the recent episode Exodus maybe Adama parallels Moses liberating the 12 tribes from the Pharaoh. Baltar being the Pharaoh! Hm, maybe I just need to take a crazy pill instead. I think I’ll go do that.
November 2nd, 2006 at 9:31 am
BSG colliding with Earth would be a disaster like, say, Battlestar Galactica 1980? I couldn’t watch that dreck. But then again I was in college and pretty much stopped watching television until, oh, last March, when I realized I was spending too much time downloading torrents and should just watch the stupid shows on TV.