Comments on: Oh…Oh They’re Good http://ambernight.org/2008/06/25/ohoh-theyre-good/ true confessions, incoherent rants, tyops Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:05:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Jade Reporting » 23 August http://ambernight.org/2008/06/25/ohoh-theyre-good/#comment-5334 Jade Reporting » 23 August Mon, 25 Aug 2008 01:04:54 +0000 http://ambernight.org/?p=591#comment-5334 [...] of Women-Oriented Gaming Communities Ex-ArenaNet Employee Claims that ANet Works with Gold Farmers Oh…Oh They’re Good Link roundup: more on film industry’s reluctance to promote female characters (Wo)Man’s [...] [...] of Women-Oriented Gaming Communities Ex-ArenaNet Employee Claims that ANet Works with Gold Farmers Oh…Oh They’re Good Link roundup: more on film industry’s reluctance to promote female characters (Wo)Man’s [...]

]]> By: Bissrok http://ambernight.org/2008/06/25/ohoh-theyre-good/#comment-4667 Bissrok Fri, 27 Jun 2008 01:51:26 +0000 http://ambernight.org/?p=591#comment-4667 ...That's not a bad deal, assuming they pay up front. Get a guy up to the max level, and you could be making $80 a month. If you get banned, enh, you have enough money to start a new account, pay some group to powerlevel you, buy some gold, and still have a little leftover for yourself. Not a bad deal at all... …That’s not a bad deal, assuming they pay up front. Get a guy up to the max level, and you could be making $80 a month. If you get banned, enh, you have enough money to start a new account, pay some group to powerlevel you, buy some gold, and still have a little leftover for yourself. Not a bad deal at all…

]]> By: Andy Havens http://ambernight.org/2008/06/25/ohoh-theyre-good/#comment-4666 Andy Havens Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:20:50 +0000 http://ambernight.org/?p=591#comment-4666 Amber said: "There are just some players out there who aren’t happy playing the same game that everyone else is playing. They want an even playing field, but they want it for everyone but themselves. Their playing field needs to have sheer vertical cliffs that tower high above your field, from where they can perch and soak in the hot golden rays of entitlement. And they are willing to pay real world money for it." Best. Description. Of RMT. Ever. You win teh Intratubez today. Amber said: “There are just some players out there who aren’t happy playing the same game that everyone else is playing. They want an even playing field, but they want it for everyone but themselves. Their playing field needs to have sheer vertical cliffs that tower high above your field, from where they can perch and soak in the hot golden rays of entitlement. And they are willing to pay real world money for it.”

Best. Description. Of RMT. Ever.

You win teh Intratubez today.

]]> By: Bonedead http://ambernight.org/2008/06/25/ohoh-theyre-good/#comment-4665 Bonedead Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:48:21 +0000 http://ambernight.org/?p=591#comment-4665 Brilliant! Imagine all of the kids who won't even get nervous about the transaction until afterwards. Man, these guys are friggin brilliant. But I still hate them. Brilliant! Imagine all of the kids who won’t even get nervous about the transaction until afterwards. Man, these guys are friggin brilliant. But I still hate them.

]]> By: amber http://ambernight.org/2008/06/25/ohoh-theyre-good/#comment-4661 amber Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:25:51 +0000 http://ambernight.org/?p=591#comment-4661 I was in a guild (DAoC) with a guy that rolled a new toon practically every other time that we played. His reasons varied, but it basically boiled down to this: he was looking for a class that pwned every other class. He eventually settled on a Bone Dancer, go figure. (I too am an altaholic, but for different reasons. I simply suck at the end-game.) There are just some players out there who aren't happy playing the same game that everyone else is playing. They want an even playing field, but they want it for everyone but themselves. Their playing field needs to have sheer vertical cliffs that tower high above your field, from where they can perch and soak in the hot golden rays of <i>entitlement.</i> And they are willing to pay real world money for it. I was in a guild (DAoC) with a guy that rolled a new toon practically every other time that we played. His reasons varied, but it basically boiled down to this: he was looking for a class that pwned every other class. He eventually settled on a Bone Dancer, go figure. (I too am an altaholic, but for different reasons. I simply suck at the end-game.)

There are just some players out there who aren’t happy playing the same game that everyone else is playing. They want an even playing field, but they want it for everyone but themselves. Their playing field needs to have sheer vertical cliffs that tower high above your field, from where they can perch and soak in the hot golden rays of entitlement. And they are willing to pay real world money for it.

]]> By: Toldain http://ambernight.org/2008/06/25/ohoh-theyre-good/#comment-4658 Toldain Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:30:57 +0000 http://ambernight.org/?p=591#comment-4658 People buy powerleveling, of course, but I just don't get it. To me, playing the game is fun. Levels were just something that happened while I was having fun doing whatever. If you aren't having fun, you are doing it wrong! People buy powerleveling, of course, but I just don’t get it. To me, playing the game is fun. Levels were just something that happened while I was having fun doing whatever.

If you aren’t having fun, you are doing it wrong!

]]> By: Colin M http://ambernight.org/2008/06/25/ohoh-theyre-good/#comment-4657 Colin M Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:33:09 +0000 http://ambernight.org/?p=591#comment-4657 Okay, sure, that makes sense. And there is a small amount of illicit ISK trade in Eve, though the legal ISK-for-GTC business makes the black market relatively small compared to WOW. So agreed, this might still be a problem, though the cutthroat nature of Eve means that anyone gullible enough to fall for this is probably just as likely to lose all their wealth to other players completely operating via "legitimate" means. There are plenty of instances of Eve players who've lost thousands of dollars worth of ISK due to corporate espionage, Ponzi schemes, and other scams that are considered a legitimate part of the game mechanics. Okay, sure, that makes sense. And there is a small amount of illicit ISK trade in Eve, though the legal ISK-for-GTC business makes the black market relatively small compared to WOW. So agreed, this might still be a problem, though the cutthroat nature of Eve means that anyone gullible enough to fall for this is probably just as likely to lose all their wealth to other players completely operating via “legitimate” means. There are plenty of instances of Eve players who’ve lost thousands of dollars worth of ISK due to corporate espionage, Ponzi schemes, and other scams that are considered a legitimate part of the game mechanics.

]]> By: amber http://ambernight.org/2008/06/25/ohoh-theyre-good/#comment-4656 amber Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:21:17 +0000 http://ambernight.org/?p=591#comment-4656 This has nothing to do with skill training. It's been awhile since I've played Eve, so maybe things have changed. But the idea here is that the gold farmer would use your account to harvest ISK. Which he would then sell for real-world money. Yes your skills would train while he's using your account, but that's a side-effect. The issue is that someone is using your account to farm ISK for money, and when your account is banned for it, they incur no responsibility. If memory serves, you can trade in-game ISK for real-world game-time cards (which are legal to sell to other players), so maybe this wouldn't be a problem in Eve. If, however, there are farmers operating outside of this ISK-for-game-time structure (and I'm inclined to think this is the case) then it's still going to be a problem. This has nothing to do with skill training.

It’s been awhile since I’ve played Eve, so maybe things have changed. But the idea here is that the gold farmer would use your account to harvest ISK. Which he would then sell for real-world money. Yes your skills would train while he’s using your account, but that’s a side-effect. The issue is that someone is using your account to farm ISK for money, and when your account is banned for it, they incur no responsibility.

If memory serves, you can trade in-game ISK for real-world game-time cards (which are legal to sell to other players), so maybe this wouldn’t be a problem in Eve. If, however, there are farmers operating outside of this ISK-for-game-time structure (and I’m inclined to think this is the case) then it’s still going to be a problem.

]]> By: Colin M http://ambernight.org/2008/06/25/ohoh-theyre-good/#comment-4655 Colin M Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:10:09 +0000 http://ambernight.org/?p=591#comment-4655 "you can expect to see it grow, cancer-like, into every game you play that has any economy to speak of" Except, I guess, games like Eve Online, where skills train in real time. If I want to train Spaceship Command V, it takes a month to do whether it's me playing during that month, someone else playing "for me", or whether I stay idle the entire month and just log in to switch skills when it finally completes. “you can expect to see it grow, cancer-like, into every game you play that has any economy to speak of”

Except, I guess, games like Eve Online, where skills train in real time. If I want to train Spaceship Command V, it takes a month to do whether it’s me playing during that month, someone else playing “for me”, or whether I stay idle the entire month and just log in to switch skills when it finally completes.

]]> By: Sweetmeat http://ambernight.org/2008/06/25/ohoh-theyre-good/#comment-4654 Sweetmeat Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:02:57 +0000 http://ambernight.org/?p=591#comment-4654 "we use it to hit monsters and get the golds ,then pay payment or offer lvling service.ok?" That was priceless, thanks Amber :) “we use it to hit monsters and get the golds ,then pay payment or offer lvling service.ok?”

That was priceless, thanks Amber :)

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